Thursday 9 October 2014

MANGSA MH17 didapati MEMAKAI topeng Oksigen - Belanda FM . . .


Ahli-ahli satu kumpulan pakar antarabangsa memeriksa bangkai di tapak di mana dijatuhkan Malaysia Airlines penerbangan MH17 yang terlibat dalam kemalangan, berhampiran perkampungan Hrabove (Grabovo) di rantau Donetsk, Ukraine timur (Members of a group of international experts inspect wreckage at the site where the downed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashed, near the village of Hrabove (Grabovo) in Donetsk region, eastern Ukraine (Reuters/Sergei Karpukhin)

tvR - Salah seorang penumpang pesawat MH17 yang ditembak jatuh di Ukraine memakai topeng oksigen, Menteri Luar Belanda Franz Timmermans berkata. Ini bercanggah dengan ayat2 baru andaian bahawa semua 298 orang di atas kapal kapal terbang mati serta-merta.

Kiev bertujuan akses ke laman web MH17 ke belakang 'pasang siap' versi kemalangan - Moscow (Kiev seeks access to MH17 site to back ‘prefabricated’ crash version – Moscow)

Komen Timmermans 'mencadangkan bahawa Boeing-777-200 ditembak jatuh 3 bulan lalu mungkin tdk jatuh selain selepas pesawat itu melanda, membunuh semua orang di atas kapal, jika sekurang-kurangnya satu penumpang kekal sedar dan berjaya menarik pada topeng oksigen.

"Orang ramai tidak mempunyai masa untuk melihat peluru berpandu yang akan datang, tetapi adakah anda tahu bahawa salah satu mangsa ditemui dengan topeng oksigen ke mulut mereka?" Kata Timmermans Khamis, HOC saluran TV dilaporkan.

"Ini bermakna bahawa seseorang mempunyai masa untuk berbuat demikian," katanya. "Sekurang-kurangnya, kita tidak boleh menolak kemungkinan ini."

Pendakwa raya Belanda telah mengesahkan bahawa satu penerbangan MH17 penumpang, warganegara Australia, ditemui dengan tali elastik topeng oksigen pada lehernya.

Ia adalah tidak diketahui "bagaimana atau bila topeng mendapat di leher mangsa," AP memetik Wim de Bruin, jurucakap pendakwa Belanda, sebagai berkata.

Pendakwa raya Belanda berkata tiada mangsa lain MH17 didapati dengan pada topeng oksigen.

MH17 Victim found WEARING Oxygen mask - Dutch FM . . .

One of the passengers of the MH17 plane shot down over Ukraine was wearing an oxygen mask, Dutch Foreign Minister Franz Timmermans has said. This new revelation contradicts assumptions that all 298 people on board the plane died instantly.


Timmermans’ comments suggest that the Boeing-777-200 shot down three months ago might not have fallen apart immediately after the aircraft was hit, killing all people aboard, if at least one passenger remained conscious and managed to pull an oxygen mask on.

“People hardly had time to notice the missile coming, but do you know that one of the victims was found with an oxygen mask over their mouth?” Timmermans said Thursday, HOC TV channel reported.

“This means that someone had time to do that,” he said. “At least, we cannot rule out this possibility.”

Dutch prosecutors have confirmed that one flight MH17 passenger, an Australian citizen, was found with the elastic strap of an oxygen mask around his neck.

It is not known “how or when the mask got around the victim's neck,” AP quoted Wim de Bruin, a spokesman for Dutch prosecutors, as saying.

Dutch prosecutors said that no other MH17 victim was found with an oxygen mask on.

Ahli-ahli Kementerian Kecemasan Ukraine berkumpul dan badan-badan tempat di lokasi kemalangan Penerbangan Malaysia MH17 Penerbangan, berhampiran perkampungan Hrabove, rantau Donetsk (Members of the Ukrainian Emergencies Ministry gather and place bodies at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, near the village of Hrabove, Donetsk region (Reuters/Maxim Zmeyev)

Magomed Talboev, bekas juruterbang ujian atas Rusia, memberitahu Slon.ru ba-hawa mencari seorang mangsa MH17 dgn pd topeng oksigen tidak semestinya bercanggah sebelum ini andaian mengenai kematian serta-merta semua orang di atas kapal.

"Beberapa saat dapat melepasi sebelum pesawat hancur," kata Talboev "Ini sudah cukup untuk merebut topeng yang jatuh secara automatik di hadapan muka anda dan meletakkannya di atas -. Ini adalah [survival] naluri".

Pesawat Malaysia Airlines telah ditembak jatuh pada 17 Julai, terbang dari Amsterdam di Belanda ke Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Ia terhempas berhampiran Torez, penyelesaian 60 kilometer dari sempadan Rusia, dalam Warzone di mana tentera Ukraine berjuang Donetsk daya self-defense forces. Semua 283 penumpang dan 15 anak kapal mati.

Oleh kerana kebanyakan mangsa, 196 penumpang, adalah rakyat Belanda, Lem-baga Keselamatan Belanda (DSB) mengetuai dan menyelaras penyiasatan kum-pulan antarabangsa pakar.

Sebulan yang lalu, pada 9 September, DSB mengeluarkan laporan awal ke dalam kemalangan itu, berkata pesawat itu "berpecah di udara, mungkin akibat kero-sakan struktur yang disebabkan oleh sebilangan besar objek tinggi tenaga yang menembusi pesawat dari luar. "

Semua orang di atas kapal mati serta-merta kerana penyahmampatan serta-merta, kata laporan itu, tanpa menyebut apa-apa penggunaan topeng oksigen.

Oleh kerana operasi ketenteraan aktif telah berterusan berhampiran lokasi kemalangan MH17, pakar-pakar forensik tidak dapat untuk mendapatkan semula bukti di atas tanah, dan tidak semua mayat dijumpai pada 3 bulan. Selepas per-janjian gencatan senjata 5 September telah dicapai antara pihak2 yang bertelagah, aktiviti penyiasatan di zon lokasi kemalangan disambung semula.

Setakat ini, mayat 251 mangsa MH17 telah dikenal pasti oleh pegawai-pegawai Belanda di The Hague.

Magomed Talboev, Russia's former top test pilot, told Slon.ru that finding one MH17 victim with an oxygen mask on does not necessarily contradict previously assumptions about the immediate death of everyone aboard.

"A couple of seconds could pass before the plane disintegrated,” Talboev said. “This is enough to grab a mask that falls automatically in front of your face and put it on – this is [survival] instinct."

The Malaysian Airlines plane was shot down on July 17, flying from Amsterdam in the Netherlands to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. It crashed near Torez, a settlement 60 kilometers from the Russian border, in the warzone where Ukrainian troops were fighting Donetsk self-defense forces. All 283 passengers and 15 crewmembers died.

Because most of the victims, 196 passengers, were Dutch citizens, the Dutch Safety Board (DSB) is leading and coordinating the investigation of an international group of experts.

One month ago, on September 9, the DSB issued a preliminary report into the crash, saying that the plane “broke up in the air, probably as the result of structural damage caused by a large number of high-energy objects that penetrated the aircraft from outside.”

Everyone onboard died instantly because of immediate decompression, the report said, without mentioning any use of oxygen masks.

Because active military operations were continuing near the MH17 crash site, forensic experts were unable to recover evidence on the ground, and not all the bodies have been recovered three months on. After the Sept. 5 ceasefire agreement was reached between the warring parties, investigation activities at the crash site zone resumed.

So far, the bodies of 251 MH17 victims have been identified by Dutch officials in The Hague.


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